Comments on: Shame and Guilt: A World of Difference http://www.hodu.com/blog1/shame-and-guilt-a-world-of-difference/ Working Towards a Better World Through Better Communication Skills, Interpersonal Relationships and Personal Growth Thu, 29 Jul 2010 13:07:04 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Anonymous http://www.hodu.com/blog1/shame-and-guilt-a-world-of-difference/comment-page-1/#comment-13 Anonymous Wed, 07 Sep 2005 14:23:00 +0000 http://www.hodu.com/blog1/2005/05/shame-and-guilt-a-world-of-difference/#comment-13 Re: "In it's purest form, shame is a positive, healthy phenomenon. It is rooted in the desire for self-improvement and involves working with the intellect. It's all about personal responsibility, and is an elevating experience that provides an impetus for growth and promotes human dignity. It ultimately leads to enhanced interpersonal relationships."<br/><br/>I think about shame in relative terms to autonomy. The struggles with autonomy manifest itself with externalizing responsibility (blaming others) when under stress. Frequently individuals are indecisive and are easily confused or angered when put a decision making task. Is this consistant with your description? Re: “In it’s purest form, shame is a positive, healthy phenomenon. It is rooted in the desire for self-improvement and involves working with the intellect. It’s all about personal responsibility, and is an elevating experience that provides an impetus for growth and promotes human dignity. It ultimately leads to enhanced interpersonal relationships.”

I think about shame in relative terms to autonomy. The struggles with autonomy manifest itself with externalizing responsibility (blaming others) when under stress. Frequently individuals are indecisive and are easily confused or angered when put a decision making task. Is this consistant with your description?

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.hodu.com/blog1/shame-and-guilt-a-world-of-difference/comment-page-1/#comment-12 Anonymous Wed, 07 Sep 2005 13:48:00 +0000 http://www.hodu.com/blog1/2005/05/shame-and-guilt-a-world-of-difference/#comment-12 Re: Irrational Guilt is "about the heart ruling the head in the most negative sense."<br/><br/>"In practice, how do we ensure that positive shame will never degenerate into irrational guilt? Sometimes it's far from easy, as we see from Sharon's unfortunate episode. In extreme cases, professional help may be required..."<br/><br/>As a psychiatrist, I am not certain the mental health field is versed in Shame, positive or negative, or Irrational Guilt.<br/><br/>I would be interested in hearing more about what distinguishes one from the other, and any worthwhile publications on the issues. Re: Irrational Guilt is “about the heart ruling the head in the most negative sense.”

“In practice, how do we ensure that positive shame will never degenerate into irrational guilt? Sometimes it’s far from easy, as we see from Sharon’s unfortunate episode. In extreme cases, professional help may be required…”

As a psychiatrist, I am not certain the mental health field is versed in Shame, positive or negative, or Irrational Guilt.

I would be interested in hearing more about what distinguishes one from the other, and any worthwhile publications on the issues.

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